Lossless notation for CJ stems

Quick notes mainly for myself in the form of examples.

  • V-verb: mi, ke

  • C-verb: omoh, sak
    • exceptions: ar.i, nar.i, etc.
  • D-verb: sug/i, uk/e, r/ar/e (る/らる)
    • exceptions: sin/0, ku, su (easier just to use the accepted names)
  • L-adjective: kanasik.i, yorosik.i (there aren't any short-stem adjectives that end in -sik, are there?)

  • M-adjective: yok.i, akak.i (M is for "mijikai", preferred over S because it comes right after L)
    • The .i business is to avoid confusion between these and C-verbs. It can be left off where context makes it clear that we're talking about adjectives.
  • X-verb (?): X:z (じ), X:ras (らし)

  • XD-verb (?): X:mas/e (まし), X:s/e (完了「き」)
    • The X: business is for the same reason as the .i business above. It's an extremely ugly way to go about things, but since there are very few X-verbs to worry about, I don't care.
  • Reorganize auxes by what they attach to (stem, MZ, RY, SS, other)
  • Move sim (しむ) to the stem group with the other causatives

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Is rasi really best considered a verb? It's invariant in form (after the Nara alternative RT rasiki fades away, of course) and never becomes a base for further expansion, right? I think the "Altgrammatiker" simply assumed the existence of identical but independent RT/IZ forms based on kakari-musubi.

Anyway, to help out a bit, of the "Type 2" Aux's in the Iwanami table, tamahu, mausu, tatematuru and saburahu are C-verbs, kikoyu is a D and haberi an ari-type.

(I'm still worrying over suppletion...)


If nothing else, these Japanesey postnings got me to dig out my XP dvd and install the full set of fonts and stuff. (Why it isn't on by default I can't imagine.)



If not a verb, what? A particle? That would make things a lot easier, actually. (Especially if we can get rid of ji too.)


A particle works for me!

Especially if we can get rid of ji too.

Well, my experience with ji is rather limited; people who spend a good portion of the day sitting do have problems with the various forms, though, so a solution would be nice!

I'll assume you and Azuma will know more (Boragi Noll any good?), but from what I can see it always occurs at the end. Of a sentence. If so, I see no reason to treat it differently than rasi.

(Sorry...guess I should clean up my act, seeing how Hat has been so kind as to direct traffic our way!)


Better way of doing the adjectives:


(because that's what they ARE.)


Deep weirdness that this causes:

得 = 0/e

Yes, its consonant stem is nothing at all!

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